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Poster: TigerTails Date: Nov 27, 2008 1:00pm
Forum: web Subject: Re: Wayback machine causes personal suffer

Hm, I do have one idea for ya.. Just upload a html file somewhere saying "This website is owned by , @.com" and email the link to him, that should prove it I imagine.

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Poster: Santtu Date: Nov 27, 2008 11:19pm
Forum: web Subject: Re: Wayback machine causes personal suffer

One nasty alternative would be that I take a fraction of the pages and replace my name with Grabmillers name and my photo with Grambillers photo and publish it and give link to Grabmiller. From web can be found much information and photos wich search "Lance Grabmiller", but probably there are serveral Lance Grabmillers. It is difficult or impossible to find the right one.

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Poster: Face_ Date: Nov 28, 2008 4:35am
Forum: web Subject: Re: Wayback machine causes personal suffer

Santtu said: "One nasty alternative would be that I take a fraction of the pages and replace my name with Grabmillers name and my photo with Grambillers photo and publish it and give link to Grabmiller."

Eh... why would you do that?

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Poster: Santtu Date: Nov 29, 2008 5:23am
Forum: web Subject: Re: Wayback machine causes personal suffer

Face:
"Eh... why would you do that?"

This would force him to pay more attention to my case.

1. I do not want to republish my pages with my name and photo and valid contact information only because Grabmiller wants me tell where the new version is. (Such does not exist.) The pages lived very long, but the page history from Wayback Macine can be found from years 2001-2003.


2. If I must republish my pages to covience Mr Grabmiller that the pages are mine, I must still give a proof that the pages are mine. A very good way to give the proof is to show that I really have access to the pages by modifying them so that Grabmillers data is there instead on my data.

Anyway the Wayback machine violate copyrights of the orignal page owners when the copy peoples pages tho the archive and republish the material to wich they have no copyright. Actually they should give a proof that they have right to the material wich they publish at their websites. They are the page thiefs, not me. They treat my pages as if they would own them. Why I must make huge efforts to get the contorl of my own pages back to me? They have stolen the page control. If I have changed my opinion of some subject, I have a right to remove the oroginal opion page from publicity. But Mr. Lance Grabmiller believes that he is some kind of God who can do what ever he wants to my websites. And now I must humble pray him to remove my pages.

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Poster: jonc Date: Nov 28, 2008 8:52am
Forum: web Subject: Re: Wayback machine causes personal suffer

Santtu, a photo does not prove you are who you say you are. People often have many photos distributed on the Web, on places such as personal websites, social networking sites and image hosting sites. IA has no way of knowing that this is actually from you. There is also offline browsing software that would allow someone to download your entire website from the Archive

Face's suggestion might be a good one. You are probably still in your former host's database, and there would be information there that would only be known to you, e.g., a password. When you say "the server doesn't exist", do you mean the host is no longer offering services, or simply that your site longer exists on their server?

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Poster: Santtu Date: Nov 29, 2008 5:30am
Forum: web Subject: Re: Wayback machine causes personal suffer


Jonc said:

"Santtu, a photo does not prove you are who you say you are. People often have many photos distributed on the Web, on places such as personal websites, social networking sites and image hosting sites."

You have right. I have not though that. But the photo of my door where is my name is a good proof. The photo had date and time and was fresh. (Only few minutes old when I emailed it to Mr. Grabmiller.) Another low resolution photo from the same door can be found from the archives. I gave a link to the low resolution photo at IA. I think that this is the best possible proof that the pages are mine.

The original pages have also huge amout of written texts. Every text have my name and date.

At the pages can be found my street adress wich is still valid. Grambiller could send me snailmail to that address and I will reply to him. This would be also a proof. But I think that he does not do that, because he was too busy or lazy even to click the links and visit more deep into my archived pages.

" IA has no way of knowing that this is actually from you."

If IA does not believe that the pages are mine, I have anyway right to demand them to close them, because in the pages are sensitive information about me.

"There is also offline browsing software that would allow someone to download your entire website from the Archive "

I know it, but nobody can download the entire website (over 40 megabytes) from Wayback Machine, because the pages at Wayback Macine are corrupted. Several background images and other images are lacking.

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Poster: Face_ Date: Nov 29, 2008 7:56am
Forum: web Subject: Re: Wayback machine causes personal suffer

It is possible that someone else secretly made that picture, and is now attempting to trick us. Also, metadata like the date and time on which a photo was taken can very easily be altered (example: http://www.attributemagic.com/attributemagic-pro.html).

Have you already tried my RapidShare.com idea? (see above) I don't know if Lance reads/answers his mail in the weekend though.

I urge you to think twice before you go insulting people. Please have some patience. At least wait untill the end of monday?

Face

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Poster: Santtu Date: Nov 29, 2008 4:57pm
Forum: web Subject: Re: Wayback machine causes personal suffer

I am not attemping to trick anybody. It is 100 % sure that the wayback has not right to the pages what it is publising.

Several pages has a marking "Pictures and text copyright My Name". There are NOT marking "Pictures and text copyright Lance Grabmiller"

It is 100% sure that I will win in court if I sue Mr. Grabmiller.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Jan 16, 2009 10:08am
Forum: web Subject: Ok this might actually be a real thread

At first I thoguht this was a joke, some sort of avant garde fiction or an extra credit college assignment. And although I don't understand the point because you won't say what the people did, who they are or post a link so we can judge for ourselves, I doubt you will get much serious response with the dramatic, reattionary phrasing and martyr posturing (trust me, I know from experience).

I really thought Lancy Grabmiller was a metphor for someone grabbing your stuff or a gay teen idol wannabe astronaut hybrid...

Anyway, I still don't understand...

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Poster: Face_ Date: Nov 27, 2008 1:16pm
Forum: web Subject: Re: Wayback machine causes personal suffer

Yes, that would be possible, if he/she still has access to the hosting server. And if the server still exists.

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Poster: Santtu Date: Nov 27, 2008 11:07pm
Forum: web Subject: Re: Wayback machine causes personal suffer

"Yes, that would be possible, if he/she still has access to the hosting server. And if the server still exists."

The server does not exist any more. Most free servers don't give over 40 megabyte space wich I need. And I want not publish my pages again.... after a while the new published pages would be at Wayback Machine again :)